Discussion about Pitch Counts for Youth Pitchers Sept 9, 2008 12:16:53 GMT -6
Post by scorekeeper on Sept 9, 2008 12:16:53 GMT -6
Carroll, W. (2004). Saving the Pitcher. Preventing Pitching Injuries in Modern Baseball. Chicago: Ivan R. Dee.
Carroll conducted an experiment in 2003 where gave three Friends velocity loss charts and asked them to use a ten point system while observing a high school baseball game. 10 being the pitcher's best fastball, down to 1 - arm is falling off and useless. Each reduction in points from 10 was to indicate pitcher fatigue by perceived reduction in velocity. Carroll at the same time measured each pitch speed in the game with a calibrated radar. When evaluating the results Carroll found out that his friends were able to judge the pitch speed in a relative manner. This method was found useful enough to determine a danger point at 7 on the velocity loss scale and a breaking point at 5 on the scale.
Technology is now in place to make the use of radar for this purpose feasible. Gloves are now manufactured with a small radar device on the back of the glove. The pitch speed could be immediately known and charted.
Hard and fast pitch counts could be a thing of the past. The pitch count in and of itself is as useful as a wheel without a vehicle.
Well, if nothing else, it gave me a chance to read a small sample from the book. www.qcbaseball.com/philosophy/pitch_count1.aspx
Seems his thoughts on PC’s pretty much go along with what’s “normal”, which makes it difficult for me to reconcile the statement, Hard and fast pitch counts could be a thing of the past. The pitch count in and of itself is as useful as a wheel without a vehicle.
But I digress. So how does 3 people being able to judge the relative velocity of a pitch from the 1st pitch to some later pitch # indicate fatigue?